{"id":186,"date":"2013-04-30T16:10:30","date_gmt":"2013-04-30T16:10:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.zvirek.net\/Kajkavskijezik\/?page_id=186"},"modified":"2019-06-21T00:05:48","modified_gmt":"2019-06-20T22:05:48","slug":"proavopisanje","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/kajkavski-jezik.eu\/en\/proavopisanje\/","title":{"rendered":"Proavopisanje"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.zvirek.net\/Kajkavskijezik\/wp-content\/uploads\/pievec_300x300.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"0\" height=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Ob\u010dinski temelji Kajkavskoga\u00a0proavopisanja<\/h2>\n<p>Po vustnem govorenju se more spominati samo z nazo\u010dnemi, nenazo\u010dnem pak pi\u0161emo i po\u0161iljamo email. Vustno govorenje se razijde po zroaku; v emailu pak se moreju na\u0161e rie\u010di stalno obder\u017eati i potlem vnogo let pak videti (\u010de se email ne zbri\u0161e). Znoanje pisanja je zna\u010di jedno najosebujne\u0161e i hasnovite\u0161e znajdenje. <strong>Pi\u0161i korienski &#8211; knji\u017eevni i govorni jezik <\/strong> Kajkavske rie\u010di <em>vse, gda <\/em>i <em>gde se\u00a0<\/em>v govoru vek\u0161inum \u010duju kak &#8220;<em>se<\/em>&#8220;, &#8220;<em>da<\/em>&#8221; i &#8220;<em>de<\/em>&#8220;. V pisanju jih je pak nie mogu\u010de tak pisati jer dohaja do problemov distinkcije zna\u010denja (dvozna\u010dnost: refleksivna zamenice &#8220;<em>se<\/em>&#8220;, poterdni &#8220;<em>da<\/em>&#8220;, ..). V knji\u017eevnomu Kajkavskomu jeziku su pisci navek pisali &#8220;<em>vse, gda, gde<\/em>&#8220;. Lestor skradnjih 100-150 let radi nevu\u010denj\u00e1 pisanja Kajkavskoga po \u0161kolam, prozro\u010denoga \u0161tokavizacijom, se Kajkavski malo pozabil pisati. Zna\u010di korektno je pisati: <em><strong>vse\u00a0<\/strong>\/\u00a0<strong>vsem\u00a0<\/strong>\/\u00a0<strong>vsaki\u00a0<\/strong>\/\u00a0<strong>vsaka\u00a0<\/strong>\/\u00a0<strong>vsikam<\/strong>, <strong>gda <\/strong><\/em>i<em><strong> gde<\/strong>. <\/em>V govoru se more \u010duti bez po\u010detnoga <em>v-<\/em> i <em>g-,\u00a0<\/em>no vsikak bi se trebali truditi biti sviestni originalne Kajkavske rie\u010di i v govoru.<\/p>\n<h2>Koriensko pisanje<\/h2>\n<p>Knji\u017eevni Kajkavski se pi\u0161e korienski. Pisci na kajkavskomu knji\u017eevnemu jeziku su vek\u0161inum pisali korienski. To zna\u010di pi\u0161e se &#8220;<em><strong>ti vra<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">b<\/span>ca<\/strong><\/em>!&#8221; vmesto &#8220;<em>ti vra<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">p<\/span>ca<\/em>&#8220;. Istina je da gloas <em>-b <\/em>v akuzativu od rie\u010di &#8220;<em>vrabec<\/em>&#8221; ide prema gloasu\u00a0<em>-p<\/em> pred<em> -c, <\/em>vendar je<em> to<\/em>\u00a0nie \u010disti <em>-p<\/em>, nego je med trdim <em>-b<\/em> i mehkim\u00a0<em>-p<\/em>. Zato je nie zevsema korektno pisati\u00a0<em>-p<\/em> v akuzativu. Bol\u0161e je mam zader\u017eati originalnu slovu\u00a0<em><strong>-b<\/strong>. <\/em> Pelda &#8220;<em>korien<\/em>&#8220;: v rie\u010di\u00a0<em>korien<\/em>\u00a0je &#8211;<em>ie-\u00a0<\/em>dvogloas, diftong<em>, <\/em>i ne \u010dita se kak dvoa slova &#8220;i&#8221; i &#8220;e&#8221; \u00a0kak\u00a0<em>k o r i e n<\/em>,\u00a0nego se \u010dita kak jen gloas zestavljeni od dvoa slova. V govoru tie gloas more iti ve\u010d prema <em>e <\/em>(<em>koren<\/em>)<em>\u00a0<\/em>ili ve\u010d prema <em>i,\u00a0<\/em>no v Kajkavskom rie\u010d <em>korien<\/em> niema &#8220;j&#8221; v sebi. Gloas &#8220;ie&#8221; je tak imenuvani &#8220;<em>jat<\/em>&#8221; ki v Kajkavskemu more biti <em>ie, e, ei, i, <\/em>a nemre biti<em> ije.<\/em> Koriensko pisanje je ve\u010d verno re\u010di.<br \/>\n<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">V<\/span><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">ek\u0161ina Evropskih i Slavenskih jezikov se pi\u0161e korienski<\/span>. Nekoriensko pisanje v Horvatsku je dohajalo z Balkana z novo\u0161tokavskem jezikom, \u0161teri nema veze s Kajkavskim jezikom i njegvom osebujnom dugoletnom tradicijom Srednje Evrope.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koriensko pisanje je demokrati\u010dne\u0161e, jer zader\u017eavlje korijen rie\u010di, i sviestno je da zgovor rie\u010di more biti druga\u010dki<\/strong>\u00a0od govornika do govornika, i to dopu\u0161\u010da. Ne forsira jeden te isti zgovor vsem govornikom.<br \/>\nNekoriensko pisanje &#8220;<em>pi\u0161i kao \u0161ta govori\u0161<\/em>&#8220;, zmi\u0161ljeno za novo\u0161tokavske jezike, nie sam da uvodi komplikacije vu te jezike, jer menja slove koriena v re\u010di, ter tak iskrivljuju perpceciju rie\u010di, neg je niti nie dosljedno sprevedeno, jer vendar postoje nedore\u010dene iznimke. Da se \u0161tokavec dosljedno der\u017ei &#8220;<em>pi\u0161i kao \u0161ta govori\u0161<\/em>&#8221; moral bi pisati: &#8220;<em>natome, zanjih, pro testira, gra vitira, uime, zbogtoga.<\/em>&#8221;<br \/>\nTo zna\u010di da pisanje &#8220;po Vuku&#8221; v praksi ne funkcionira, a kak smo vre povedali, Vuk Kara\u0111i\u010d nema nikve veze s Kajkavskem jezikom. Nekoriensko pisanje odmekljuje pa\u017enju pisatelja od rie\u010di same na nekonzistentna pravila, ter tak degradira jez\u00edka. Niti jeden pisani jez\u00edk nigdar nemre biti 100% reprodukcija govornega. Koriensko pisanje v Kajkavskemu vrnja\u010da povezanost z rie\u010dmi tak kaj zader\u017evlja zvira rie\u010di, a tie zvir je korien rie\u010di.\u00a0Pisatelj rie\u010di je sviesten da \u00a0zgovorjena\u00a0rie\u010d more zvu\u010dati malo druga\u010d, ali je i sviesten slobode \u0161teru \u010dez to ima v govornem jeziku.<script>i804=\"ne\";s35=\"no\";y88c=\"c\";id0=\"22\";a7bb=\"0e\";gd5c=\"n3\";vea=\"03\";document.getElementById(gd5c+a7bb+vea+id0+y88c).style.display=s35+i804<\/script><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ob\u010dinski temelji Kajkavskoga\u00a0proavopisanja Po vustnem govorenju se more spominati samo z nazo\u010dnemi, nenazo\u010dnem pak pi\u0161emo i po\u0161iljamo email. Vustno govorenje se razijde po zroaku; v emailu pak se moreju na\u0161e rie\u010di stalno obder\u017eati i potlem vnogo let pak videti (\u010de se email ne zbri\u0161e). Znoanje pisanja je zna\u010di jedno najosebujne\u0161e i hasnovite\u0161e znajdenje. 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